Glenn Beck: The #2 city in world for kidnapping is...
February 13, 2009 - 13:00 ET
Glenn: Name the city in the world where the most kidnappings happen. Mexico City is No. 1. More kidnappings happen in Mexico City than any other city in the world. Now name No. 2. Bogota Columbia? Why would you guess, Stu?
Stu: I would definitely say Columbia.
Glenn: Columbia, you think Somalia. You think -- more kidnappings happen in Mexico City than any other place in the world. They're No. 1. No. 2 is Phoenix, Arizona. That is staggering. I love Phoenix, Arizona. I used to live in Phoenix. I was just in Phoenix. Here's what you're not getting. You're not getting in the news the truth on Mexico. I am -- God bless them, man. You're not going to find this story in the AP. You're not going to find in story anyplace else. You'll find pieces of it on the front page of the "Wall Street Journal" today about the violence in Mexico, the paramilitary groups that are in Mexico City, but let me tell give you this: If drug cartels continue to terrorize Mexico, Texas officials are planning for the worst-case scenario: How to respond if violence spills over the border and what to do if thousands of Mexicans seek refuge in the United States. A spokesperson for Texas Governor Rick Perry says a multiagency contingency plan is being developed and it will focus primarily on law enforcement issues, including how to handle an influx of Mexicans fleeing the violence. At this point we're focusing on what is still overviolence. The immediate concern, if any, would be that. More than 5300 people were killed in Mexico last year, in connection with criminal activity. The plan currently in Texas does not address the potential flood of refuse few gees, though it may be something that comes into consideration. The vice-president for defense and foreign policy of the Kay toe institute says worse case scenario Mexico becomes the western hemisphere's equivalent of Somalia, the mass violence and mass chaos. This would clearly require a military response from the United States. Darrell Ankarlo, in KTAR from Phoenix, Arizona, a guy who has been talking about this for a long time. Darrell, I had no idea, as did most Americans, that the No. 2 place in the world for kidnappings is Phoenix, Arizona.
Ankarlo: Glenn, good morning. And, yes, it's a sad story. The worst part of the story is we had 359. So, that's one a day in Phoenix, Arizona, last year.
Glenn: How is it -- wait, wait, wait. Darrell, before I get any deeper than that, how is it possible that Americans don't know that 1 person a day is kidnapped in a city like Phoenix, Arizona? How is that possible?
Ankarlo: Glenn, cut it out. You are a hater, Glenn. I keep trying to explain to you, they're coming here for work, man. They only want to work here. There's no drugs involved here. There are no cartels involved here, and that's the reason nobody wants to know this because we want this to be a nice human exchange of humanity over the border. I was talking to a buddy of mine in law enforcement on issue yesterday and he said, Darrell, on the border, the border patrol, we see this as Pakistan. You think of Daniel Pearl getting his head chopped off. We see -- and these or guys who work Pakistan -- we see what's going on on the U.S./Mexico border identical to what is going on in the Pakistan region. So, you talked about Columbia, talk about Mexico City. This is the United States of America, Glenn, and for every kidnapping we hear about, according to my sources, there are 3 to 5 we have no idea happened.
Glenn: Who are the people that are being kidnapped? How is it happening?
Ankarlo: A lot of it's the drug car tell information. The last time I was on your show, we were talking about the drug car tell coming in with their fully automatic weapons and, you know, they're here for, you know, bear. That's a big part of it. So, it's an exchange of drugs. Somebody messes up in the drug front and the next thing you know, somebody's being kidnapped for ransom and --
Glenn: Out of the 359, how many were returned?
Ankarlo: I don't have the answer to that, Glenn. It's a great question. I don't have the answer to that. I know that the numbers run anywhere from 25,000 to a half a million dollars is what the ransom fees were last year in Phoenix, Arizona. I cannot tell you how many were returned.
Glenn: Who is -- who's overseeing this? What agency? What department? What -- I mean --
Ankarlo: Oh, yeah, that should be fun. Let me give you, too, first of all, in Phoenix, Arizona, the Phoenix Police Department, just in the last couple of months approved some police officer on patrol having rifles and they said, We'll buy our own rifles and Phoenix Police Department says, No, you won't. David Spade, you know, the actor, he came in here about six, seven weeks ago. He put 100,000 of his own dollars on the table and he said, I will buy $100,000 worth of rifles. Right now in Phoenix, Arizona, our law enforcement, they've got 50 rifles in the entire police department to fight back these guys who are coming with --
Glenn: You don't need rifles. You need fully automatic rifles. You don't need rifles.
Ankarlo: You know that and I know that, but what they're saying is we need to start somewhere because at this point, if this is going down, that the cop who is under gun fire --
Glenn: Darrell, here's the thing: How many rifles do you guys need? You find out a number and you call me back and you get on the program. America, are you willing to -- forget the stupid government. Are you willing to send money down to the Phoenix Police Department if they need rifles? Are you willing to buy rifles?
Ankarlo: Glenn, it gets better, though, because they, the police department said, Well, not every officer should have a rifle. You need to be trained in the use of said rifle. You need to call a superior before you use said rifle and the cops I talked to say, are you out of your mind? You've got 5, 10 seconds to make a decision. You can't be calling down, hoping that 10, 15 minutes later somebody shows up with a long gun to somehow save your life and you asked who's responsible. So, there's Phoenix Police Department trying, you know, in the last two months to do something that they should have been doing years ago and everybody, God bless you, in Texas and the other border states, you just inherited Janette Napolitano. She is our new Homeland Security director. Guess who's in charge of everything that's been going on on the border, Phoenix, Arizona, Tucson, Arizona, Nogales? That's right. Janet Napolitano. I'm frightened that she won't go in full guns blazing saying we've got a major problem down there on the border. Then it's going to be a major epidemic.
Glenn: Darrell, how did John McCain go an entire two years or not campaign trail without America showing that the second most dangerous city to have your kids or somebody in your family kidnapped is Phoenix, Arizona?
Ankarlo: They all made a deal. None of these people talked about. You know, Barack Obama wasn't talking about it. Hillary Clinton, our Secretary of State, wasn't talking about it. John McCain not talking about it. Judge Greg just steps down and everybody says why did he step down, because the No. 1 issue that he was going to fight the battle on was the census. The Democrats want to do an estimate on the census. He said, no. We want a full-fledged look at the census and, of course, if you do an estimate, then you can throw money at this and certain groups, shall we say, those who want to see the borders opened, will have more numbers, more power, more money, and they can continue this onslaught. So, this is a political machine that we're watching here, Glenn.
Glenn: Our republic is at stake. Our republic is at stake. If -- what have you guys been talking about, Darrell, down near the border, if Mexico melts down?
Ankarlo: You know, I was talking, again, to several members of law enforcement yesterday off the air and one of them, he said, Darrell, you can say it on the record or off the record many let me just tell you, with all the problems going on in Mexico, i.e., the drug cartels, i.e., their economy is to shambles. They're going to look here and as they continue to look here and we have a border patrol that isn't fully funded, isn't fully manned, in my opinion, and then you've got politicians who continue to turn their back in this country, he said, Mexico falls. We're dead on these border states. It's not a question of when or it's not a question of how. It's a question of when this is going to happen. I was talking to one guy yesterday, Glenn, and he said, here's the deal with the drug cartel: They are under strict orders, you will not lose your product. So, every drug cartel member coming into America right now is outfitted with a long gun, i.e., fully automatic weapon. They're fully field shielded with body armor and or given hand grenades, and they're told, you lose your product, you will be killed. So, no matter what you do, you make sure the product is delivered and if you lose it, you better have the money to replace it. There's the kidnapping issue that you were talking about. So, they say, Okay, I've got $300,000 worth of product here and I just lost it to, you know, another rival gang that's coming over the border. All right. I'll kidnap three people in Phoenix today. I'll get my money back. I've been crying about it. We took the trip down there undercover. I've been talking about and talking about it and at this point, unless other people in the country wake up, there is only so much rammering one guy can do down here.
Glenn: Darrell Ankarlo from KTAR in Phoenix. Darrell, I want to talk to you off the air maybe later today or this weekend, but I would like you to -- I'd like you to talk to your police department. Find out what they need, because I have to tell you, as a citizen, I'm done. I mean, I'm just -- I'm just tired of waiting for the people in Washington to take care of something. If you guys, if your police department can't afford something, if your sheriff and his deputies can't afford something, you let me know and I know that I'm not alone in this. I know that there are a lot of Americans that will write a check to any law enforcement organization that they need backup. If they need weapons, you got it. You got it. You let me know what they need.
Ankarlo: I appreciate it and let me just tell you, we're all placed in a position for a time and I believe the reason you are where you are in what you're doing is for this time. So, I will make a call right now and I'll get you a number.
Glenn: Will you call back and let me know? Speaker I'll call you.
Glenn: Bye-bye.
Ankarlo: See you.
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